![]() ![]() I mean the differences are fraction on visual data, but they are there. I suppose the title could be altered to reflect that I just used MediaMonkey to convert to WMA CBR 320 and got another file, slightly different again. If this guy was using the SDK, I don't a reason then for Media Monkey or dBpowerAmp to also tweak the encoder slightly for their own ends, and thus a slightly different resulting encoded file. Someone did attempt something using the SDK to makes some tweaks here and there, but that was mostly about WMV-video issues. Well, yeah, there hasn't been much development since 2002 with regard to the WMA/WMV encoder. If you want to preserve the original sound quality and shrink the file size, support lossless compression codecs like FLAC, ALAC, WMA lossless, APE etc. It wouldn't surprise me, I mean they decided not to support lossless, and actually said in the manual ref MP3 "the original level of sound quality is preserved". This could be due to lousy decoder software/firmware/hardware in the player. I didn't hear any difference on the PC rig between the files( various software decoders), but there was a difference on the CD player itself. It'd be nice to use it to play some random music too sometimes, just a selection I wouldn't particularly want a CD-R of.Īs I said we did the tests, in that machine, and WMA CBR 320 came out top of the crop of what was available. Then I can tweak and re-encode if needed, and try again before burning an actual CD-R. I mainly use the USB socket for piling a bunch of track on and seeing how they flow. The CD player sounds great with actual discs. Far from that, everything is FLAC and is backed up on 2 systems my main PC and the Netbook, plus an external HDD. Oh don't worry, I am not being as naive to just convert everything to lossy format and be done. MP3 is, at least, still a standard lossy codec. But if you're investing a lot of time and hundreds of CD rips to encode to WMA9 or 10, I would be concerned about long-term support as there's a good chance that if you replace that CD player down-the-road, the new device may not support WMA. If you're encoding a few albums, then no big deal. But my concern is that the format's long-term future is uncertain. MS changed Windows Media Encoder to Expression Encoder (which is just WMA Pro 10 encoder, under the hood), but now they've moved into Azure Media Services (which tmk is not free - but I need to do some reading up on that). But, most importantly to me, Windows Media Encoder seems to have stopped development. Plays4Sure is essentially dead from a development standpoint, and so is the Zune (although I think the Zune Pass is still kicking, care of other devices like the XBOX). But my problem was, and is, future compatibility. I think it was a very good format some years back, certainly rivaling Vorbis and AAC. It's not that I dislike WMA - far from it. I would concentrate on MP3 (LAME V0 or 320kps CBR, if you want to squeak out the best SQ you can). ![]() I think it is member: spoon on hydrogen audio forum that did dBpowerAmp, so maybe I should ask him. I would have assumed dBpowerAmp would employ the same algorith through it's interface, but it doesn't seem that way, unless there is something else at work. If they knew anything of the code behind the two. ![]() I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on that one. I can't really say which sounds truer to the original CD yet, but I can clearly see the difference in graphs and charts - I know, shhh! That would indicate that the algorithms used in each differ some. There's definitely some noise difference between the two. I decode them to WAV and try a null test. Now, when I compare the WMA files they are not the same. I managed to get Windows Media Encoder working nicely, and that does the job in a much easier fashion - all within one program, plus I can use apply ReplayGain setting to get a bunch of track the same level-ish. But I tried to integrate the dBpowerAmp command line into Foobar2000 converter options and it wasn't having any of it. I initially used dBpowerAmp to convert to WMA and for LAME MP3. They are all not as good as the CD, but vary on how close they are. I conducted some listening tests, and came out with WMA Std 9 CBR 320, basically the highest quality lossy it will go, as the closest sounding to the source. So I am stuck with either WMA 9 Standard or MP3. First things first, I have to use WMA or MP3 lossy formats because our CD player, Yamaha CD-S700, has been equipped with a USB port that doesn't support what it quite frankly should, lossless. ![]()
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